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The last few weeks I have been asked at least 5 times how to make a living in the arts. Well, I do work in the arts, graphic artist, effects artist, sculptor and makeup artist… I work in whatever medium will get the job done (and pay the rent ;) So to you young'ns on my friends list or just watching one of my portfolio pages I have to say… just don't give up. That's it really, just don't quit. I'm sure all of you are talented, you've been working on your creative skills since you were a kid most likely… well, that isn't the most important thing if what you want to do is make a living in the arts. All those art majors that graduate each year are looking for the same thing and they're all talented too. What they don't all have tho is patience. To be a professional you don't really have to be the best, you just have to out last most of those other starving artists out there. If what you're into is the purity of your "art" and not selling out or whatever, that's cool. If that's your priority you can have that… if you want to be able to make a living in the arts, that's different. It's not one or the other of course, just different. I think the worst thing you can do is set one of those deadlines for "making it". I've heard it many times before, "if I can't support myself in two years than I'll get a real job". Life doesn't work on your schedule, and what takes months for one might take years for someone else even they they might be more talented… it just happens. So stay with it every day. If you're a graphic artist, practice every day. if you're a writer, write every day (a few years of three hours of practice every day will make almost anyone good at their chosen medium ;) So hang in there my friends! When i'm working on a big sculpt with great people in the middle of the night and cool music is playing and all is right with the world, I get to think " AND i'm getting paid for this" :D
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DAnnsCreations Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
Perfect!  :icongivemesmilesplz:  As a teacher I've always said practice, practice, practice!  Plus, do whatever you love, whenever and where ever you can!  ;P  I've done a lot of different things, my little sister was always upset that whatever I put my mind to, I was successful ... she never saw all the hard work that led up to those little successes!  :rofl::rofl::rofl: My children know, and I'm oh soo happy about that!  :squee:  :iconlovehug:
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lamelobo Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
i have an art degree. and come from a long line of artisans. ....my friend i must say reading you journal made me smile. thank you so much i am keeping on...with my dream and trying and i want to say i really respect your work and esp. all you said in this journal thank you friend. dearly. it made me smile. and is so refreshing. cheers. :)
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Glad you're keeping on, it's pretty much all we an do don't you think? best of luck to you!
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RaptorArts Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Ive been trying for years. Maybe after college in December 2013 Ill move up to LA area and search for studio jobs in the FX area. Maybe well run into each other, never know :)
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
yeah, if you're still in school you should be doing that... learn young one! hehe, once you get into the city i'm sure things will pick up... have you talked with any of the shops yet?
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RaptorArts Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Im trying :)
I email them but they never get back to me. :(
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
yeah, I bet checking emails isn't on their list of to-do's, I had some luck just dropping by and see if they need anyone, after the third or fourth visit they kind of know who you are ;)
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KayCSerenity Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
This is the best advise I'v heard yet, you have really inspired me not to give up my friend :) Thanks for everything <3
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
I think the work is worth it in itself, but I hope you find all the success in your chosen field that you want :)
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Moorcat Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
I got into a fine arts co-op gallery a year ago, havent really sold anything yet, but I have grown quite a following, and change my "shows" monthly, at least 50% of the work displayed, and every first friday opening, people come just to see what ive hung...its only a matter of time before Im selling work as fast as I can hang it. watching the things you do is inspiring too, and itd be nice to make models for more then myself sometime.
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
Best of luck with your work, and thank you, nice of you to say :)
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savageworlds Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
I also find that small blood sacrifices to the art godz (usually from the tips of my fingers) helps to promote my success...

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"Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else. The trick is the doing something else."
-(Leonardo da Vinci)
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
LOL.... sometimes not so small blood sacrifices ;P
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Rhissanna Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
What you've said is absolutely right. And I'd say, yeah, well, never gonna happen to me, except that I just sold my first two dolls on Etsy. last week. So, it does happen! Keep the faith, do the work and it really can be what you want.
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
That's awesome! congratulations! That means you're a professional etsy doll maker now! :D
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Rhissanna Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thank you!
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DaisyViktoria Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Thank you for posting your advice, Tim!
In the few years since I left engineering and started focusing full time on my fashion/costumes, I've watched many others around me try to start and then give up. It really does take patience and a passion for what you are doing, and often some sacrifices. I could never stop making exciting clothing, even if I tried!
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
I'm so glad to hear it :) I love the stuff you do
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DaisyViktoria Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
Aw, thanks! I think your work is really awesome too, and I'm really glad you're able to be successful doing what you love!
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Bast-TW Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
Great advice, and very true on so many points.
Definitely gonna share this with some friends, and a few students that I occassionally get to borrow for theatre craft projects.

You shall now be famous throughout the land. Mind you, my land is usually a little 10x12 workspace, unless there's a big project in the works, but you'll be famous nonetheless. :D
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
LOL.... hey, have to start somewhere, and I shall call it... this land *uses Wash voice*
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RandyHand Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Excellent advice Tim.
Hopefully them young whippershnappers kin lern a thing er two dag nabbit!
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional General Artist
Them kids today with their rock and roll music and "I wanna make art N git paid for it" What are they thinking? now get off of my lawn!
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RandyHand Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
Next thing ya know they're gonna inject that marywanna in their veins and raise all sorts of ruccus.
Why in my day,
what was I talking about?
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
Haha, yeah well, if my day I remember living in Steamboat Springs and getting all happy when my book of "mushrooms of the rockies" finally showed up.... that's about the last thing I remember about that summer actually XD
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RandyHand Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Hee hee.

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TKMillerSculpt Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional Artist
Great advice, Tim!
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional General Artist
it's one of those "someday all this could be yours" kind of things... as I sit and mix plaster at 2am because the clients changed their minds for the third time
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TKMillerSculpt Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Artist
That's the thing though, isn't it? They want the gig but they're not really all that interested in having to put in those late nights, given up the time chilling with friends, cancel plans or vacations for the work. You want the cool job? Get ready to 'put up'.
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
Isn't it the truth? I bet you get asked stuff like this more than I do, and of all the people who have ever asked advice about working or learning anything, maybe 2% ever did one thing to follow thru. It's like Woody Allan said, "Success is 80% showing up". I guess that because it's suppose to be their "dream job" most folks aren't prepared for it to also be "work". After working way too many hours without sleep and your hands are sore and you really just want to sleep, it's not all that fun doing what you love (i'll smack the next one who says "at least you're doing what you love" after I go on a rant about no sleep and crazy deadline and clients changing their minds and I'm covered in fiberglass and still finding styrofoam in my hair ..... oops, sorry, i rant
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TKMillerSculpt Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Professional Artist
i'll smack the next one who says "at least you're doing what you love"

TOTALLY sounds like something I would say!!! Yeah, the sad reality is everyone wants an easy way about things, success without the sweat. I imagine you and I have similar work hours, i.e. 14 hour work days typically.
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
"It reminds me of (insert character name, IE Yoda, Jaba, Klingon)... you must have been watching when you made it"

(and of course there are no similarities between the two other than being NOT human)

"is that the color it's going to be?"

;P
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flightresponse Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I think diversity is really a great asset. If you can do many things well or even average, I think your chances of landing a job are higher.
I agree with you, work in whatever medium will get the job done. Being diverse gives you way more options.
And also you do need LOTS of practice and patience.
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LocationCreator Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
Good advice, Tim.
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bear48 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional
Been it and out of the arts for a long time now

Hard life but I would do it again at the drop of a hat... any hat
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
sorry it's been hard, i've been really lucky it seems, I've never had to get a regular job (like, at a video store or something). I've been working non stop now for a very long time... I don't even know what else I would be fit to do? LOL
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bear48 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional
I too do not know what else I would be fit to do witch is why I keep coming back to TV

Be well
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
:)
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Axlazu Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think I asked you when I first stumbled onto your page.
I have yet to forget the advice
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TimBakerFX Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional General Artist
still working?
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Axlazu Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
the advice is still working, and I'm still pushing forward to reach the end goal/dream
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